Do Mormons Really Believe They Can Get Their Own Planet?

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Q: Do Mormons really believe they can get their own planet?
A: No!  They believe they'll get their own universe.
"As man is God once was; as God is man may be"


References

[1]     Mormon News Room, "Mormonism 101: FAQ" 
         Do Latter-day Saints believe that they will “get their own planet”?
         No. This idea is not taught in Latter-day Saint scripture, nor is it a doctrine of the Church.
         http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/mormonism-101#C14

[2]     Lorenzo Snow; “The Grand Destiny of Man,” Deseret Evening News, July 20, 1901, 22
          "As man is God once was; as God is man may be"

          This quote is reiterated in the 2012 manual:
          "Teachings of Presidents of the Church", George Albert Smith, Chapter 7

See Also

[Heber C. Kimball] When we escape from this earth, (do) we suppose we are going to heaven? Do you suppose you are going to the earth that Adam came from? that Eloheim came from? where Jehovah the Lord came from? No. When you have learned to become obedient to the Father that dwells upon this earth, to the Father and God of this earth, and obedient to the messengers He sends---when you have done all that, remember you are not going to leave this earth. You will never leave it until you become qualified, and capable, and capacitated to become a father of an earth yourselves. 160 years ago today - Nov 14, 1852

--Journal of Discourses 1:356

Gospel Principles, Chapter 47, Blessings of Exaltation

Those who receive exaltation in the celestial kingdom through faith inJesus Christ will receive special blessings. The Lord has promised, “All things are theirs” (D&C 76:59). These are some of the blessings given to exalted people:

1. 1. 
   They will live eternally in the presence of Heavenly Father and JesusChrist (see D&C 76:62).
2. 2. 
   They will become gods (see D&C 132:20–23).
3. 3. 
   They will be united eternally with their righteous family members and will be able to have eternal increase.
4. 4. 
   They will receive a fulness of joy.
5. 5. 
   They will have everything that our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ have—all power, glory, dominion, and knowledge (see D&C 132:19–20). President Joseph Fielding Smith wrote: “The Father has promised through the Son that all that he has shall be given to those who are obedient to His commandments. They shall increase in knowledge, wisdom, and power, going from grace to grace, until the fulness of the perfect day shall burst upon them” (Doctrines of Salvation, comp. Bruce R. McConkie, 3 vols. [1954–56], 2:36; italics in original).

The Inhabitants of the Moon & Sun

Quotes

[1] Joseph Smith, Jr.
"The inhabitants of the moon are more of a uniform size than the inhabitants of the earth, being about 6 feet in height.  They dress very much like the Quaker style and are quite general in the style or the one fashion of dress.  They live to be very old; coming generally, near a thousand years."

[2] Brigham Young
"So it is with regard to the inhabitants of the sun.  Do you think it is inhabited?  I rather think it is.  Do you think there is any life there?  No question of it; it was not made in vain.  It was made to give light to those who dwell upon it, and to other planets' and so will this earth when it is celestialized."

References

[1a] Joseph Smith, Jr., The History of Oliver B. Huntington, p. 10, typed copy, Marriott Library, University of Utah
[1b] Joseph Smith, Jr., (Similar Reference); Young Woman's Journal "The inhabitants of the moon", 3:263-264;
[2] Brigham Young, 1871, Journal of Discourses, Volume 13, page 271

LDS Modern Day Prophecy; Where is it?

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Quotes & References

[1] Chart Data http://www.afterallwecando.com/count-of-modern-lds-prophecies
[2] "the coming of the Lord, which was nigh--even fifty-six years"
      Joseph Smith, Jr. Quote ; History of Church, v2, p 182
[3] "We will never get a man into space."
      Joseph Fielding Smith Quote en.fairmormon.org/Mormonism_and_doctrine/Changing
[4] "I am sustained as such"
      Hinckley-King Quote; CNN Larry King Live; sfgate.com; Sunday Interview; April 13, 1997
[5] "One, two, three--let's go shopping"
      Monson Quote businessweek.com/articles/2012-07-10/how-the-mormons-make-money
[6] Senator: "Have you ever received revelation from God?"
      Joseph F. Smith: "No sir, none whatsoever"
      en.fairmormon.org/Revelation_after_Joseph_Smith/Joseph_F._Smith_at_Smoot_hearings
[7] "How can we know when a message has not been spoken by the LORD?  If what a prophet proclaims
      in the name of the LORD does not take place or come true"
      Deuteronomy 18:21-22 NIV

Christians agree with Moroni 8:18; Why don't Mormons?

References

[1] Moroni 8:18; Book of Mormon
"For I know that God is not a partial God, neither a changeable being; but he is unchangeable from all eternity to all eternity."

[2] Lorenzo Snow; “The Grand Destiny of Man,” Deseret Evening News, July 20, 1901, 22
"As man is God once was; as God is man may be"

[3] Joseph Smith Quote; History of the Church, Vol. 6, Ch. 14, p. 305-6; Joseph Smith, Jr. "King Follet Discourse"
"God himself was once as we are now, and is an exalted man, and sits enthroned in yonder heavens!  That is the great secret. ...I am going to tell you how God came to be God.  We have imagined and supposed that God was God from all eternity.  I will refute that idea, and take away the veil,..."

See also:

http://WeAgreeWith818.com
Isaiah 44:6,8 
Romans 11:33-36

A Mormon Testimony is 60% "The Church", not Christ Focused

References

[1] Testimony Glove, Liahona, Oct. 2008
[2] John 14:6 NIV

Prescriptive LDS Testimony:

• 1. I know that God is our Heavenly Father and He loves us.
• 2. I know that His Son, Jesus Christ, is our Savior and Redeemer.
• 3. I know that Joseph Smith is a prophet of God. He restored the gospel of Jesus Christ to the earth and translated the Book of Mormon by the power of God.
• 4. I know that The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints is the Lord’s Church on the earth today.
• 5. I know that this Church is led by a living prophet who receives revelation.

References:
John 14:6 NIV
http://www.lds.org/liahona/2008/10/testimony-glove

Kirtland Banking Society

References

[1]    'Anti-Banking Company', "Mormon Enigma", by Newell & Avery, pp. 62

[2]    Painesville Republican, Feb. 22, 1838, Conflict at Kirtland, pg 297
         Joseph declared that the audible voice of God, instructed him to establish a banking-anti-banking institution."
         "[The Kirtland Safety Society] Shall swallow up all other Banks"

[3]    "No Man Knows My History", Fawn Brodie, pp. 199-202

[4]    "Joseph Smith As An Administrator," M.A. thesis, BYU, May 1969, pp. 80-88
         Smith tried in court and found guilty

[5]    "The Mormon Murders", by Naifeh & Smith, 1988, pp 25-26
         Prospective clients shown boxes of sand with a thin layer of coins on top

Book of Abraham; Facsimile #3 Examined

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See also:

Facsimile #1 Examination	Facsimile #2 Examined

References:

Joseph Smith's Interpretation
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/fac-3

Modern Eqyptological Interpretation
http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html

FAIR LDS explanation
http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham/Joseph_Smith_Papyri

Joseph Smith's Interpretation	Figure	Modern Egyptological Interpretation
Abraham sitting upon Pharaoh’s throne, by the politeness of the king, with a crown upon his head, representing the Priesthood, as emblematical of the grand Presidency in Heaven; with the scepter of justice and judgment in his hand.	1	This is Osiris Writing above figure:  "Recitation by Osiris, Foremost of the Westerners" The "atef" crown also identifies him as Osiris
King Pharaoh, whose name is given in the characters above his head.	2	This figure is female not male. Writing above figure:  "Isis the great, the god's mother"
Signifies Abraham in Egypt as given also in Figure 10 of Facsimile No. 1.	3	This is a libation table (wine, oils, etc.)
Prince of Pharaoh, King of Egypt, as written above the hand.	4	This figure is female not male. Writing above figure:  "Maat, mistress of the gods."
Shulem, one of the king’s principal waiters, as represented by the characters above his hand.	5	This is the deceased individual wearing the traditional cone of perfumed grease and lotus flower on his head. Writing above figure:  "The Osiris Hôr, justified forever"
Olimlah, a slave belonging to the prince.	6	Not a slave, this is Anubis, guide of the dead, who is there to support the deceased. Writing above figure:  "Recitation by Anubis, who makes protection(?), foremost of the embalming booth,…"

Book of Abraham; Facsimile #2 Examined

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See also:

Facsimile #1 Examination	Facsimile #3 Examined

References:

Joseph Smith's Interpretation available at: http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/fac-2
Modern Eqyptological Interpretation at:  http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_7.html
FAIR LDS explanation at http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham/Joseph_Smith_Papyri

Joseph Smith's Interpretation	Figure	Modern Egyptological Interpretation
Kolob, The residence of God	1	The god Khnumu.
Stands next to Kolob	2	"Amun-Re", god with two faces representing rising & setting sun.
God sitting on his throne, clothed with power and authority	3	"Horus-Re" riding in his boat
Raukeeyang; also the number 1,000; The measuring of time of Oliblish	4	Represents Sokar, not a number
Enish-go-on-dosh; a governing planet	5	Cow of Hathor, behind which stands a uzat-headed goddes holding a sacred tree.
Represents this earth in it's four quarters	6	The four (4) sons of Horus, they can represent the four cardinal points of earth
God sitting on his throne, revealing through the heavens the grand Key-words of the Priesthood	7	The god "Min", an ithyphallic god; that is, a sexually aroused male deity.
Contains writings that can only be revealed in the temple.	8	"grant that the soul of Osiris Shechonk may live."
Ought not to be revealed at the present time.	9	"the netherworld (below the earth) and his great waters"
	10	"O might god, lord of heaven and earth"
	11	"O god of the sleeping ones from the time of creation" (Read in order 11, 10, 9, 8)
Will be given in the own due time of the Lord	12	"near" and "wrap"
	13	"which made by"
	14	"breathings"
	15	"this book"
	16	"and may this soul and its possessor never be desecrated in the netherworld"
	17	"May this tomb never be desecrated"
	18	"I am Djabty in the house of Benben in Heliopolis, so exalted and glorious.  [I am] copulating bull without equal.  [I am] that mighty god in the house of Benben of Heliopolis… that might god…"
	19	"You shall be as that god, the Busirian"
	20
	21
No Annotation Given	22	Writing: "The name of this mighty god"
	23	Figures 22,23; Baboons are adoring souls of that realm

Book of Abraham; Facsimile #1 Examined

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See also:

Facsimile #2 Examined	Facsimile #3 Examined

References:

Joseph Smith's Interpretation available at: http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr/fac-1

Modern Eqyptological Interpretation compiled at:  http://www.bookofabraham.com/boamathie/BOA_6.html

FAIR LDS explanation at http://en.fairmormon.org/Book_of_Abraham/Joseph_Smith_Papyri/Facsimiles/Facsimile_1

Joseph Smith's Interpretation	Figure	Modern Egyptological Interpretation
The Angel of the Lord.	1	The spirit or "ba" of Hôr (The deceased fellow)
Abraham fastened upon an altar	2	The deceased:  His name was "Hôr"
The idolatrous priest of Elkenah	3	Anubis (see original image not facsimile, this figure was originally portrayed with the head of a Jackal)
The altar for sacrifice by the idolatrous priests, standing before the gods of Elkenah, Libnah, Mahmackrah, Korash, and Pharaoh.	4	A common funerial bier or "lion couch"
The idolatrous god of Elkenah.	5	Canopic jars containing the deceased's internal organs.
The idolatrous god of Libnah.	6
The idolatrous god of Mahmackrah.	7
The idolatrous god of Korash.	8
The idolatrous god of Pharaoh.	9	This is the god "Horus"
Abraham in Egypt	10	A libation table bearing wines, oils, etc. Common in Egypt.
Designed to represent the pillars of heaven, as understood by the Egyptians.	11	A palace façade, called a "serekh"
Raukeeyang, signifying expanse, or the firmament over our heads; but in this case, in relation to this subject, the Egyptians meant it to signify Shaumau, to be hig, or the heavens, answering to the Hebrew word, Shaumahyeen.	12	This is just the water that the crocodile swims in.

Joseph Smith; The Reluctant Polygamist

"During the third and final appearance, the angel came with a drawn sword, threatening Joseph with destruction unless he went forward and obeyed the commandment fully."
Plural Marriage in Kirtland and Nauvoo, paragraph #8
https://www.lds.org/topics/plural-marriage-in-kirtland-and-nauvoo

[1] "In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives of Joseph Smith", Todd Compton, pp 80-81
Zina remained conflicted until a day in October, apparently, when Joseph sent [her older brother] Dimick to her with a message: an angel with a drawn sword had stood over Smith and told him that if he did not establish polygamy, he would lose "his position and his life."

[2] Hyrum Smith, Elder Benjamin F. Johnson's Letter to George S. Gibbs, 1903
"Joseph was commanded to take more wives and he waited until an angel with a drawn sword stood before him and declared that if he longer delayed fulfilling that command he would slay him."

See Also

There is another account which indicates that the sword may have been a "flaming sword"

"While it was a great trial for Mercy to enter into plural marriage, it was even a greater trial for Mary to consent to it. Truly, it was the most difficult thing both ever had to do. It was equally difficult for Hyrum. The principle of plural marriage was given as early as 1831. Joseph Smith had inquired of God to know and understand wherein He justified His prophets of old as touching upon the principle and doctrine of their having plural wives and concubines. The principle was then revealed by the Lord to Joseph. He was commanded to obey it. He did not immediately comply. Then, according to Apostle George A. Smith, an angel with a flaming sword appeared to the Prophet Joseph and warned him that unless he obeyed it, he would be destroyed."
(Don Cecil Corbett, Mary Fielding Smith, Daughter of Britain: Portrait of Courage [Salt Lake City: Deseret Book Co., 1966], 154.)
http://deseretbook.com/Mary-Fielding-Smith-Daughter-Britain-Don-C-Corbett/i/5090945

More flaming sword mentions here:
http://mormondiscussions.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=26067&p=640152

The LDS Word of Wisdom; Enjoy Beer!

D&C 89:16-18

 16 All grain is good for the food of man; as also the fruit of the vine; that which yieldeth fruit, whether in the ground or above the ground—

 17 Nevertheless, wheat for man, and corn for the ox, and oats for the horse, and rye for the fowls and for swine, and for all beasts of the field, and barley for all useful animals, and for mild drinks, as also other grain.

 18 And all saints who remember to keep and do these sayings, walking in obedience to the commandments, shall receive health in their navel and marrow to their bones;

Joseph Smith vs Warren Jeffs; Visualized

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See Also

 Joseph Smith and his many wives

References

Ref.	Comparisons	Prophet	Description/Link
1J	Number of wives	Joseph	34 Wives
1W	Number of wives	Warren	87 Wives
1W	Number of wives	Warren	78 Wives
2J	Age of Youngest Wife	Joseph	Helen Mar Kimball age 14 @ LDS.org
2W	Age of Youngest Wife	Warren	12 Years old
3J	Other Men's Wives	Joseph	11 Married Wives See also essay @ LDS.org
3W	Other Men's Wives	Warren	Polygamy in Primetime' page 31-32
4J	Mother Daughter Wives	Joseph	Sylvia & Patty Sessions
4W	Mother Daughter Wives	Warren	Warren Jeffs & Joseph Smith, by Doris Hanson (Presentation)
5J	Biological Sister Wives	Joseph	Emily & Eliza Partridge
5J	Biological Sister Wives	Joseph	Sarah & Maria Lawrence
			Also Johnson Sisters
			Also Huntington Sisters
			Total 4 Pairs = 8 Wives
5W	Biological Sister Wives	Warren	Warren Jeffs & Joseph Smith, by Doris Hanson (Presentation)
6J	Under age 18 Wives	Joseph	7 under 18
6W	Under age 18 Wives	Warren	SL Tribune: 'two dozen'

Scriptures Quoted Above

• D&C 132:61
• Leviticus 20:14
• Leviticus 18:18